Comments on: Users or Customers? http://churchtechmatters.com/2008/04/04/users-or-customers/ A site for tech volunteers written by tech volunteers Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:46:29 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Rick Wighman http://churchtechmatters.com/2008/04/04/users-or-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-31082 Rick Wighman Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:41:40 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/2008/04/04/users-or-customers/#comment-31082 About 15 years ago I was at a meeting of Professional Foresters (I am one) in British Columbia. The gentleman giving a talk said, "you don't need a bridge, you need to get [wood] to the other side" This has always stuck with me - we need to stop defining solutions and instead work harder at defining the problems. If we do that correctly, then we can generate a range of solutions that will address the problem and we can, with the help of the people we're helping, evaluate those and find one that makes the most sense. Another aspect to this, that is particularly useful in a church context is that sometimes we push too hard for things. HE is well aware of our resources and our limitations. Recognizing that He is our leader (He's ALWAYS (t)here hence He can't show up, it's really a matter of whether we're willing to acknowledge His presence and leadership) means willing to acknowledge His timing. That may mean that we'd really like to get this latest project completed now that may not be in His plan. So when things get tough losing your peace and joy isn't in the plan God has for us. I forget this a lot, and have to revisit it regularly, About 15 years ago I was at a meeting of Professional Foresters (I am one) in British Columbia. The gentleman giving a talk said, “you don’t need a bridge, you need to get [wood] to the other side” This has always stuck with me – we need to stop defining solutions and instead work harder at defining the problems. If we do that correctly, then we can generate a range of solutions that will address the problem and we can, with the help of the people we’re helping, evaluate those and find one that makes the most sense.

Another aspect to this, that is particularly useful in a church context is that sometimes we push too hard for things. HE is well aware of our resources and our limitations. Recognizing that He is our leader (He’s ALWAYS (t)here hence He can’t show up, it’s really a matter of whether we’re willing to acknowledge His presence and leadership) means willing to acknowledge His timing. That may mean that we’d really like to get this latest project completed now that may not be in His plan. So when things get tough losing your peace and joy isn’t in the plan God has for us. I forget this a lot, and have to revisit it regularly,

]]> By: Clif Guy http://churchtechmatters.com/2008/04/04/users-or-customers/comment-page-1/#comment-31029 Clif Guy Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:20:51 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/2008/04/04/users-or-customers/#comment-31029 Thanks for the kind words, Jim. It was a great opportunity to speak on something I'm passionate about and to push myself to enlarge my imagination and to remember that God has infinite resources. Thanks for the kind words, Jim. It was a great opportunity to speak on something I’m passionate about and to push myself to enlarge my imagination and to remember that God has infinite resources.

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