Comments on: Why a Mac in Church? http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/ Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:44:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Adrian http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1297 Adrian Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:46:52 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1297 on the good side, propresenter is soon to be on the PC! and a BETA can already be downloaded! on the good side, propresenter is soon to be on the PC! and a BETA can already be downloaded!

]]> By: Kenan Scott http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1296 Kenan Scott Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:25:06 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1296 Well wouldn't a PC be a better use of God's money? Depending on how much better the Mac would be I guess Well wouldn’t a PC be a better use of God’s money? Depending on how much better the Mac would be I guess

]]> By: Jim Walton http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1295 Jim Walton Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:32:28 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1295 Here's the link to the forum thread again: http://forum.churchtechmatters.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=34 Here’s the link to the forum thread again:
http://forum.churchtechmatters.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=34

]]> By: RLinger http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1294 RLinger Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:29:18 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1294 OK, now I feel really dumb, I found it! OK, now I feel really dumb, I found it!

]]> By: RLinger http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1293 RLinger Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:28:22 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1293 What forum, wheres this forum, HELP!!! What forum, wheres this forum, HELP!!!

]]> By: Chase Livingston http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1292 Chase Livingston Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:23 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1292 John, Posted my reply in the forum to keep things simple. John,
Posted my reply in the forum to keep things simple.

]]> By: John http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1291 John Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:41:53 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1291 One issue I cannot look past is that you are paying for a luxury brand. It has been reported recently that 91% of people that buy a laptop over $1,000 buy Apple. Apple doesn't even sell laptops under $1,000 (unless you buy refurb). While yes I agree Apple has great engineering and design, stable, in general more secure, and easy to use. One question you have to ask is, IS it really worth paying the 30+% premium? Windows 7 is out now and it's ridiculously easy to use, security software is free, and Microsoft give tons of free multimedia software as well, Live Photo Gallery, Live Movie Maker, Live Mail. AND it runs smoothly on my 2-year-old $350 laptop. I mean I love BMW's, I know they are built-to-last, higher reliability, more enjoyable to drive, have more features included, etc. But does that mean it's appropriate for all church leadership to drive BMW's? Whether it's a personal computing decision, a business computing decision, or a religious non-profit computing decision, each one has to be looked at differently. I firmly believe churches in all of these have the highest calling in being a good steward with our resources. If you are committed to fight against social in-justices how can you justify a luxury brand computer in your church? If there is a specific task in which you need an Apple to do that task effectively than I can understand. Look at Fluid Desktop for PC, developed by Thirsty Media. It's very easy to use, has all the features of ProPresenter 4 at 1/3 the cost. I too would appreciate a full comparison review. I'd have to say I completely agree with Chris. It's our responsibility to find the best tool for the job (whether mac or PC) and not let our personal bias drive our decisions. One issue I cannot look past is that you are paying for a luxury brand. It has been reported recently that 91% of people that buy a laptop over $1,000 buy Apple. Apple doesn’t even sell laptops under $1,000 (unless you buy refurb). While yes I agree Apple has great engineering and design, stable, in general more secure, and easy to use. One question you have to ask is, IS it really worth paying the 30+% premium?

Windows 7 is out now and it’s ridiculously easy to use, security software is free, and Microsoft give tons of free multimedia software as well, Live Photo Gallery, Live Movie Maker, Live Mail. AND it runs smoothly on my 2-year-old $350 laptop.

I mean I love BMW’s, I know they are built-to-last, higher reliability, more enjoyable to drive, have more features included, etc. But does that mean it’s appropriate for all church leadership to drive BMW’s?

Whether it’s a personal computing decision, a business computing decision, or a religious non-profit computing decision, each one has to be looked at differently.

I firmly believe churches in all of these have the highest calling in being a good steward with our resources. If you are committed to fight against social in-justices how can you justify a luxury brand computer in your church? If there is a specific task in which you need an Apple to do that task effectively than I can understand.

Look at Fluid Desktop for PC, developed by Thirsty Media. It’s very easy to use, has all the features of ProPresenter 4 at 1/3 the cost. I too would appreciate a full comparison review.

I’d have to say I completely agree with Chris. It’s our responsibility to find the best tool for the job (whether mac or PC) and not let our personal bias drive our decisions.

]]> By: Chase Livingston http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1290 Chase Livingston Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:22:28 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1290 Chris, Thanks for your input, I value everyone's opinion. I didn't really intend this article to be an all factual article, however. It was mainly just to express my opinion on why someone would rather use a Mac than a PC in church. I am definitely thinking about working on a post (or series of posts) that compare ProPresenter to the others (namely EasyWorship and MediaShout). Maybe one day I'll find the time and resources to be able to make that happen. Again, thank you for your input, I hope you continue to be active in this community. Chris,
Thanks for your input, I value everyone’s opinion. I didn’t really intend this article to be an all factual article, however. It was mainly just to express my opinion on why someone would rather use a Mac than a PC in church. I am definitely thinking about working on a post (or series of posts) that compare ProPresenter to the others (namely EasyWorship and MediaShout). Maybe one day I’ll find the time and resources to be able to make that happen.

Again, thank you for your input, I hope you continue to be active in this community.

]]> By: Chris Green http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1289 Chris Green Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:43:14 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1289 I appreciate seeing articles like this written, but I have to give an honest opinion here... This article is heavy on opinion with very little facts. I am a firm believer in the right tool for the job. I use a MacBook Pro pretty much full time, but I remain VERY realistic on the limitations of the platform and refuse to force it in places where it adds no significant value. I find Apple's warranty options highly disappointing, and to be fair my hardware failure rates have been much higer across the board. I'm personally on my third battery in just over a year, my wife's macbook needs a logic board and a replacement top case, and I've seen countless other MacBook/MBP systems requiring logic boards to replace failed video chips and other issues recently. I also happen to really like ProPresenter. They were the first to break the mold and start offering more advanced presentation features. With version 4 they seem to have just barely pulled ahead as MediaShout and EasyWorship played catch up. The best thing ProPresenter has done here is force the other players to step up their game. Unless you need a specific feature that PP offers over the competition I would be highly unlikely to recommend to my customers a switch to the mac for presentations. For a follow up I'd love to see a real break down feature by feature of the products and really show why ProPresenter kills the competition. You could also show what hardware is realistically needed on each platform and make a case to justify your position of getting the Mac in there. I'd love to read it! Thanks! I appreciate seeing articles like this written, but I have to give an honest opinion here… This article is heavy on opinion with very little facts. I am a firm believer in the right tool for the job. I use a MacBook Pro pretty much full time, but I remain VERY realistic on the limitations of the platform and refuse to force it in places where it adds no significant value. I find Apple’s warranty options highly disappointing, and to be fair my hardware failure rates have been much higer across the board. I’m personally on my third battery in just over a year, my wife’s macbook needs a logic board and a replacement top case, and I’ve seen countless other MacBook/MBP systems requiring logic boards to replace failed video chips and other issues recently.

I also happen to really like ProPresenter. They were the first to break the mold and start offering more advanced presentation features. With version 4 they seem to have just barely pulled ahead as MediaShout and EasyWorship played catch up. The best thing ProPresenter has done here is force the other players to step up their game. Unless you need a specific feature that PP offers over the competition I would be highly unlikely to recommend to my customers a switch to the mac for presentations.

For a follow up I’d love to see a real break down feature by feature of the products and really show why ProPresenter kills the competition. You could also show what hardware is realistically needed on each platform and make a case to justify your position of getting the Mac in there. I’d love to read it!

Thanks!

]]> By: Chase Livingston http://churchtechmatters.com/2009/10/12/why-a-mac-in-church/#comment-1288 Chase Livingston Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:49:01 +0000 http://churchtechmatters.com/?p=1392#comment-1288 Thanks for your input, Paul. If you would like, join us over at the forum for some further discussion on this. Thanks for your input, Paul. If you would like, join us over at the forum for some further discussion on this.

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