We began using Planning Center Online in April 2007 and haven’t looked back. We started with the free 30 day trial, then went with what was then the $9/month plan. Due mainly to the growth of the tech team, we moved up to the $14/month plan last year. Prior to Planning Center, the Music Minister and I emailed an excel file back and forth during the week. Google Docs’ spreadsheets could be used much easier today if no money is available, but the low cost of Planning Center makes it practically a necessity for  communicating and laying out a service plan.

I also use Planning Center to schedule the rotation of my Tech Team. Their ability to accept or decline and then later receive email reminders is great. And there’s a Facebook app too.

DropBox is another invaluable tool I use pretty much on a daily basis. It allows me to work at home (or any where else with internet access). Videos, sermon notes, announcements, etc. can all be saved on my home computer or laptop and within minutes or seconds, the files will also be on the media pc at church. The 2GB free version of DropBox is sufficient for me.

Once the planning a preparation for Sundays is complete, I can access the media pc from home with Logmein Free to actually set up EasyWorship and anything else that I want to do prior to Sunday. On the IT side of my responsibilities, Logmein is installed on all the church pcs to give me and that team remote access.

Other free programs I utilize on a regular basis for tech work are Audacity for sermon recording and editing, Google Docs, Box.net, and Evernote for saving and sharing files, notes, and training material.

There are also a host of free background images and loops for projection. Vimeo and YouTube are good places to start.

Being a volunteer tech leader in a small to medium sized church requires two things week after week: get as much done as possible in the short amount of available time and do it all as cheaply as possible. Each of these tools enable me to accomplish that. And the best part is I don’t have to be away from my home or family to do it.

I posted a tweet recently and it triggered that thought process in me.

The one that said “weren’t you meant to write a blog post about this?” one. So here I am. And what I want to discuss is twofold; whether we should use stock photos in church material and if so, where can we source them for free. I always like free, especially when it comes to not spending money that could be better spent on God’s kingdom.

So, first things first. Should we be using stock photos in church material? As ever there are several factors to consider:

• How photogenic are your members?
• Are any of them on vulnerable lists and need to maintain privacy?
• If building pictures need to be used is yours suitable?
• Do you have the necessary equipment?
• Do you have the experience?
• Do you have the objects you want pictures of?

And I’m sure there are more I haven’t thought of.

The point here is that whilst you may have the necessary resources and members willing to be photographed i it right to use them? Morally I don’t have any problems and legally I don’t think, except maybe in the case of minors, we should have any issues either.

So should we use stock photos then? Personally it’s a wholehearted yes with a major caveat! That being only if the picture is appropriate. So no using cheesy pictures of Hollywood B-list stars with smiles brighter than the sun if you don’t have people like that in your church.

Once you’ve established you’re going to use stock photos the only remaining question comes down to paid, free or free with limitations. You need to be aware that with stock photos free isn’t always free. In this case free means you are free to use it within the limitations / guidelines set out by the publisher or photographer.

These ‘free’ restrictions could include:

• Usage – as in where it will be placed in your material.
• Duration – how long do you want to use the image for?
• Print Run – not relevant in web terms but when printing brochures, etc
• Territory – some images are restricted to use in limited locations
• Size – how large is your use going to be?

To be fair though, most free stock photo sites are just that – free and even though it isn’t requested it is polite to cite where you got the picture from.

So now we’ve determined acceptability and usage we can finally go find what we want. But where?

• stock.xchng is my all time favourite. Requires a free registration and most images are restriction free. They are definitely the largest out there that I know with >300,00o images. Part of this maybe because they are backed by iStockPhoto one of the larger fee based stock photo sites.
• morgueFile in contrast is probably one of the longer running free stock photo sites having been around since 1996 and certainly is my first stop for images. They’re not as large as stock.xchng with >200,000 images on the site.
• freerange is fairly new to me but still good. They differ in that they aim to provide free stock photos to commercial as well as non-commercial alike. Secondly, they have a small but dedicated team of photographers who take, edit and tag each picture. The emphasis here is definitely on quality not quantity. A free registration is required.
• flickr I couldn’t do a list without including the grand daddy of photo sharing sites. So you’re just as likely to find a nightmare as an ideal picture here but I find flickr is superb when looking for ideas that aren’t easy to pin down such as ‘love’ or ‘tension’. Again a free registration is required to download most pictures and they are typically offered in a range of sizes. I find it best when using images from flickr to drop the author a quick note saying how you plan to use it – so far I’ve not had any negative replies.
• everystockphoto is not a stock photo site per se but a search engine for stock photos. However, unlike it’s title it doesn’t search every site but a limited selection of sites … most of which are free. My advice, use the advanced search and un-check the options you don’t want.

Naturally there are many, many more sites I could list but with the above five I usually find what I want. If these don’t satisfy you then I have one more link that should meet your every need as a designer …

Blue Vertigo – as their entry banner says “more than resources”. I came across this site a few years ago and their links section (see my hotlink) is continually expanding and is constantly checked by their team. The site has an odd way of presenting itself with a static top half and the bottom half scrolls left to right through the links – you’ll also need good eyesight or a larger font as they are quite small.

What sites do you use?

Do you use stock photos? Why or why not?

Part 3 is all about Content Creation. Parts 1 and 2 can be found here and here.

As project lead I was quite happy that this burden wasn’t on me. However it was down to me to drive the provision of it and to keep advising, suggesting, etc. Of course the type of site and target audience really drives the content. In our case the site I documented this process for was (another story for another time) our main church website.

The boss man wanted to effectively transplant our monthly newsletter; notices; calendar and his monthly message to the web. He also wanted it to be a place to publicly place our Church history along with items about why we believe what we believe and other associated, relevant to our Church information. The trouble with most of the documents produced is that they were full of what I’d call “Christianeese” and to a non-Church person they were dry and very boring.

So with some trepidation I set out, along with a contact, to de-mystify the documents. Along with this was a need to categorise the data so that it could be placed on the website. When first we started the project I spoke at some length with my pastor about the need to ‘categorise’ the data he wanted on the site and to have an idea of what headings it should come under. I pointed him at resources such as menu layout study and Layout Cookbook so that he could see what was normal and what was acceptable. Little did I realise my error at the time but it was fortunately easily fixed. Within a few weeks I had been provided with raw data and no less than 14 main menu headings, along with many more sub headings – a potential nightmare for any designer, let alone the visual impact.

Thankfully we whittled this down to 6 major headings that we now have. We did this by a process of categorising the data and identifying where it could be placed.

Along with creating the content, you have to consider at whom it is aimed. This was a lot easier to argue the case that any (and yes I believe this should hold true for all) church site should target three distinct demographics. These are:

• The church membership / attendees
• Other Christians visiting or moving into the area
• Seekers

How one does this is not easy but a lot of it has to be driven by talk. In our case it was easy to persuade the pastor that just doing a website for the church would make it a relatively static site and would defeat the main object of the web (as I see it) to be interactive. And here, interactivity doesn’t mean lots of buttons to press or things to do – simply that it draws in the attention of the reader and persuades them to return. Add to this the fact that we’ve had visitors over the years that told the pastor by email / chat / etc that they had found it really difficult to know when / where our services were and that our website was dreadful (I confess, this last was my fault) but I did it so that we had something and to show the pastor how bad a static content site can be.

Anyway, this talk from outsiders finally persuaded the pastor that we needed to do something about our online presence.

Now that this hurdle was over I hammered home the need to ensure the site was not static. Now you may have an easier time of this than I, but whilst my pastor is a happy user of the internet (surfing and emails) and despite being a few years younger than I; he has publically stated on more than one occasion that you’ll “never find him on facebook, myspace or similar locales”.

Thankfully a few web searches produced lots of articles and ideas that I was able to forward to him to get his thought processes running. Little things like telling him the stuffy (they’re not, but it  served a purpose) old CofE use twitter to run their annual ‘Love Life Live Lent‘ event and suddenly he’s thinking perhaps I should involve my self more.

For our part, interactive is going to come down to regular and changing content especially on the homepage. So transplanting his monthly magazine article to the web is one; persuading him to write more often is another; remembering to get any flyers designed for events into a web based graphic to go on our front page; to ensure that (as an example) the children’s page has regular updates and with content suitable to all ages; add pictures and graphics where appropriate and change them oin a regular basis. In fact anything that makes me, you or someone else keep returning.

I’m going to stop now as I could keep driving the nail home but want to leave you still breathing. In the final part of this series I intend to cover dealing with leadership issues; employing third parties and find some form of conclusion.

In the meantime – should you have any questions or wnat to continue discussing this then do pop over to the CTM Forum and have your say.

In part one of this series I laid out the basics of project mgmt as I see them and briefly mentioned my use of FreeMind to do some brain storming / mind mapping. There are of course many resources and utilities out there that can be used instead of FreeMind – but this is the first one I found years ago and it is what I am used too.

If you have any specific links then please leave a comment or better still, include them in the forum post.

Moving along then.

Site Design.

Unless you are a designer or have very clear ideas on the what you want and how it will look then this aspect of the process will likely be the toughest. One caveat I will throw in here is that you really need to have an idea of the content so that you can either picture it in place or else you will need to utilise place holder text and pictures.

With appreciation of site design being such an individual thing I approach this aspect by crowd sourcing it. I take a cross section of the Church membership (youth, OAP’s, singles, leadership, etc) and ask them to note down web sites they like and equally sites they don’t like. Once you have these you need to spend a bit of time drawing up a tick (or hit) list of what is / isn’t popular.

The list needs to include items such as:

• Entry page
• Overall layout – is it centralised?
• Screen resolution required
• Full screen yes / no?
• Style, type and depth of navigation
• Colour usage – how many / consistency
• Logo / banner / tag line usage
• Content of menu structure
• etc …

The exact list will vary according to the end project / client but the ultimate goal here is to narrow down the type of site you want. For example do you want the site to sit central on the screen with a horizontal fly out menu structure? Or do you prefer it to be left aligned and have a vertical menu structure using strong clashing colours.

Certain things like the colour choice is made easier if the Church already has a strong sense of brand. Just have this replicated through to the website. My Church did this with their business arm when they setup an eCommerce site (GatesofPraise.co.uk) and the overall design and colours used mirror the hard print versions they’ve used for years.

Beyond the crowd sourcing process I also utilise sites like Church Beauty, or Great Church Websites (good search engine for narrowing down design needs) or even Dean Peters Heal Your Church Website is an excellent read. Don’t forget to pay a visit to Jacob Nielsen’s Usability and Web Design site – usetit.com – lots of good useful information to help you in planning your layout, etc.

One thing I can’t stress enough though – keep feeding back to the leadership team before going ahead with anything. This is something I’ve learnt the hard way (not with the current design process but in other aspects) as you don’t want to have to back track due to the bosses not liking what’s come up.

But let me also add a further caveat … if you believe in the idea / design strongly enough then take your best arguments with you – especially if you know that the ideas coming from the other side won’t work or will look bad. Just remember to keep a cool head and be prepared to walk away graciously.

Looking back at this post I’m going to leave content creation to the next post …

I have to preface this post by saying that neither I nor any members of CTM
condone the ripping of DVDs or any other source for personal or commercial gain.
This article discusses techniques to copy content that you legally own to other formats.

I was discussing the Traxdata USB Multimedia Player (more on this another time … or join in the conversation on this in forum) with a friend the other day and his basic question was “what good is it to me?”. I then explained how one could store the family movies, copies of DVDs you owned, etc and play them back without having to resort to digging out the originals every time. It’s a boon in my house because my children love to watch videos of themselves time after time after time … and even DVDs will wear out eventually – plus there’s the problem of scratches to the surface that only my children seem to be able to manage. Now all I need is a USB stick or drive.

Anyway – that’s for another time. My friend shot back with the fact that his PC always complains about his DVDs being copy protected. I then spent a little time with him showing how he could still easily rip his DVDs and it dawned on me that this could be a useful little tutorial for CTM. So without further ado, here’s my “how to rip almost anything to hard drive so that you can play it back on your TV, iPod, etc” tutorial. I should add that this is for a PC specifically and I will address the Mac another time if there’s demand.

First you are going to need two freeware utilities – both have a long history and so long as you go to a reliable source I can pretty much guarantee they will be clean. The apps you need are Handbrake and DVD43. Handbrake will run on a PC, Mac (Intel or PPC) and *nix platforms you just need to make sure you get the right flavour. Once you’ve grabbed these, installed and rebooted your PC (DVD43 requires this) then we’re good to go.

Once you’ve rebooted, fire up DVD43 (it typically puts an icon on your desktop and your quick launch toolbar) and you will see an icon appear in your system tray. This has three modes.

- no DVD inserted

- DVD inserted and happy to continue

- DVD inserted but I’m doing my thing.

Once you have your green smiley face then you can fire up Handbrake (or your favourite burning utility) and begin to rip for real.

So open up Handbrake and click on the source button – various options will present themselves but as we are ripping from a DVD you will need to select your DVD drive. If you have a standard DVD in then Handbrake will automatically pick up on the drive and its contents – simply select this.

Your next step is to select the destination – here you simply need enough space to store the ripped file.

Next we need to pick the output format and change any other settings we desire – however I strongly suggest you go with the defaults until you are comfortable with playing. Depending on the format you pick there will be other options you can select – such as “web optimized” or “iPod support”. In my case I’m going with an AVI File as this is one of the options supported by the Traxdata unit.

The final step is to click on start and let it do its business. A word of warning though – depending on how powerful your machine is, this ripping process could take upwards of several hours. It’s a set it and leave it process as far as I’m concerned. One option to speed it up slightly is to select the FFmpeg in the codec box on the video tab.

As you can see – Handbrake is an extremely simple but highly complex beast with many options to adjust including subtitles in a specific language (assuming the original has them) or forcing the subtitles on to ripping specific chapters or episodes to forcing the content to fit to a specific output size. And so on.

However the latest version of Handbrake includes many presets that have been found to do most of what you will want. So in the presets section you can select the output to be for a PSP or an iPhone or animation or … at last count there was over 18 presets with 5 output formats making for a lot of choice.

Apart from my dire warning at the start about CTM not condoning the ripping of DVDs for illegal use I do need to add that as laws vary from country to country then you’ll need to be aware of what affects your rights in your country. That said, I haven’t yet heard of (though it wouldn’t surprise me to learn the opposite) a case where you as the legal owner of a DVD have been sued for copyright infringement or similar when you’ve made a backup of the content or moved it to another platform.

I’ll finish by adding that if you aren’t ripping copy protected content then you don’t need to utilise DVD43 but please be conscious of any copying you do and if in doubt seek the permission from the creator of the content.

Happy ripping and please do join the forum conversation to share your views, your tools and the why you do this.

In a nutshell, GVoice is a true one-number service.  Calls made to the GVoice number can be automatically forwarded to one or several other telephone numbers, or be forwarded directly to voicemail.  Voicemails are run through the transcription engine and dropped into the Gvoice inbox. At this point, you as the user have the option to read the transcript or listen to the message.  While the transcription is far from perfect at this point, Google states that improvements will continue based on user feedback.  Users may also choose to have a copy of the voicemail and transcript emailed to their Gmail account.

When answering calls forwarded to a designated number, options exist to screen the calls somewhat.  When I answer my Google Voice calls, I have the option of pressing one (1) to take the call, two (2) to send the call to voicemail or three (3) to listen in on the voicemail as it is being left and pick up on the call if necessary (remember screening calls with your answering machine?).

Are you worried about having a call come to your GVoice number in the middle of the night? Don’t be.  GVoice also supports advanced scheduling for when calls are delivered and to what number.  Want to override your schedule for a brief “Do Not Disturb”? Yep, GVoice supports that function too.  During these “quiet times”, GVoice still takes a voicemail, transcribes it if possible and then forwards a copy of the voicemail and transcript to whatever email(s) you choose.

Some of the key features include:

1. Local telephone number availability – may depend on telephone provider and locale. I had to get an AT&T number for a neighboring town.
2. Unlimited 48 continental state calling with no Long Distance
3. Tight integration to Google Contacts
4. Low International Long Distance – For example, $0.01 per minute to Canada from the US (a/o today)
5. Built in voicemail with transcription
6. Unlimited SMS to and from your GVoice number
7. Unified messaging with voicemail and SMS dropping into the same interface
8. Custom call routing – Determine how specific calling numbers are handled (which number they are forwarded to, which voicemail message they receive, etc)
9. Multiple destination telephone numbers
10. Ability to record calls

Google Voice has a familiar email-type interface making it easy to do all GVoice functions from one place.

Potential Ministry Uses

Personally, I work with both Junior and Senior High Youth at our church.  I will be using Google Voice for this ministry specifically for these features:

1. Unlimited inbound and outbound SMS – While these plans are available for my cell, the inbox interface allows our ministry to send announcements, updates, handle multiple  messages quickly and archive communications.
2. Unlimited calling to any number allows us to use this tool to make free Long Distance calls from anywhere to anywhere in the continental US.
3. I also have a widget on my blog where anyone can click, enter their number and call me at no cost to them or me (in the continental US).

https://clients4.google.com/voice/embed/webCallButton
During my early usage, I have also identified the following other potential uses for other ministries:

1. Church Plants / Small Churches – Use GVoice as the published # for the church thus saving the cost of telephone/voicemail service/systems each month. Call routing can be set up in the background to route to one or many numbers.  If staff changes, the church simply changes the call routing and continues to use the Gvoice number.  Therefore, no need to change numbers.
2. Long Distance savings – while many church staff may use cell service to call Long Distance numbers, thus saving Long Distance charges for the church, this still uses package minutes. GVoice calls are free within the continental US.
3. Voicemail distribution – As church members leave voicemails on the GVoice #, notifications can be immediately emailed to the appropriate address.
4. SMS notifications – churches may use the unlimited Inbound and Outbound SMS feature to send notifications and updates to church members without having to have an unlimited package on a cell phone.  Plus the web interface makes message management easier.

As I use GVoice this fall, I will post significant updates as the service changes.

Does your church/ministry use GVoice?  Do you plan to?  Or, do you NOT see GVoice as a possible tool?  Join the discussion in our forums.

• This will not be from a coders viewpoint but that of a tech head that knows the terminology
• I know this won’t be all encompassing but I trust it proves informative
• I am not a trained project manager so your mileage may vary
• I have to use outside resources

With that said, let’s dive straight in with the first part:As I said above, I’m not a project manager but I am an organised and logical person and have had plenty of experience in organising many different projects, events, plays, etc. For me the hardest part of any project is where to start but typically I start with a brain storming (some call it mind mapping) session and for this I use pen and paper and FreeMind. FreeMind is so much more flexible than pen and paper but I still prefer the tactileness (Ed: is that a word?) of the old school approach.

When running a project there are always several steps and I’m sure there are as many variations of this as there are people running projects, but my approach could be defined as this – although I admit that this mostly just happens without my thinking about the steps:

• Define and agree the objective of the project
• Brainstorm ideas
• Assess / analyse ideas
• Categorise, refine and combine ideas
• Agree way forward
• Assign, analyse, prioritise & monitor tasks
• Agree timescales
• Feedback at agreed intervals
• Above all, keep God central in the plans

So that’s my nine step approach. Some will slot easily into other areas and I can already think of more that could be added – however I firmly believe that project managing should be about facilitating and not getting mired in the process.

In future posts I intend to cover the above steps in more detail – at present I don’t know how many pots this will take up but I foresee at least three or four…

• site design and content creation
• hosting
• dealing with leadership / employing third parties
• wrap up

If there is anything I don’t cover then please give me a shout and I’ll either include it or try to find a solution.

Proverbs 29:18
Where there is no prophetic vision the people cast off restraint, but blessed is he who keeps the law.

As I begin to develop our team @durhame I thought it was important to share the vision I had for the ministry and to let my team members help develop the vision along with me.

I prayed about the ministry as God worked in my heart; he began to reveal to me three areas of the ministry that he wanted us to focus on:

At our first tech team meeting I shared the areas of the vision with the attendees and some of the ideas that were weighing on my mind. It was amazing how God placed the exact person to fill the roles.  For example, one topic I was thinking about was the PC Workshop that Jim Walton put on and though to myself this was a great idea; countless times I’ve heard from friends, neighbors, colleagues , about the tech challenges they face at home. When I shared this idea with the group immediately Scott (one of our team members) was intrigued and wanted to know more..because that’s where hist heart was at.. what I learned was.. God does provide

Mat:37-38
Then he said to his disciples, “The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore, to send out workers into his harvest field.”

Our team is filled with great members, and they are helping to refine God’s vision for this ministry.  As their leader I continue to seek out opportunities where their gifts can be fulfilled though the ministry.

What is your team’s vision..? Have your team members been a part of growing the vision?

I encourage you to seek your members input and allow them to help refine the vision for your team.

This is my third attempt to write this post.  It’s been a challenge to write, which reassures me that it must be the right thing to do at the right time.  Versions 1 and 2 went something like this:

• V.1 is MIA, maybe I never even started it.
• V.2 is more like the story of my life and much too long.  It’s one I probably need to fill in more details and publish as my testimony or something but that is not my goal today.

Third time is a charm

I have worked in many different roles in the corporate I.T. world over the past 12 and a half years.  Over the past several years, I feel like God has been leading me to something new and something way beyond myself and that appears to be something in the church I.T. world.

I have spent 3 years in a ministry leadership role in my own church, and over the past year, I have built a team of about 10 volunteers who are willing to serve and are truly gifted in the roles they serve in.  I am intentional about raising up leaders and challenging everyone to take ownership of their area and make it better.

As I mentioned in my last post, they really are the Dream Team, most of the time, I just point the direction and get out of the way.  I lead a very diverse and talented team and together we are doing so much within the church.  Leadership is a definite strength which I bring to the table, as well as managing a growing team of volunteers.

Obviously, I don’t know where God is leading and He could honestly be leading me to be fulltime at Fairview, but since I don’t know, I am being pro-active.  God will open the door to the right opportunity and close all other doors.

Do I really know how to do this?

Since I’m new to the idea of trying to seriously market myself to a church, I really don’t know the right way to do it.  I’m going about this in my own way and letting God take care of the rest.

First off, I took my corporate oriented resume and modified it to focus on my church work, as well as my I.T. job experience because it all applies in the roles I am considering now.  However, once that was done, it occurred to me that my resume still did not give an accurate impression of who I am, what I have done and what I am currently doing.  My resume especially did not express my heart for tech in the church and my passion for this type of ministry.

Honestly, this blog gives you a good picture of who I am and what’s important to me, but I’m not going to expect someone who hasn’t kept up for the last few years to sort through all of this.

Does he really need another website?

So, I created a new website that is basically an online resume and specifically, a site about me.  I think it gives a better impression of who I am and what I’m about and the ways that I see God using me even more in the church.  My traditional resume can also be downloaded from this site.

Titles are really irrelevant, but the type of position I am interested in might be considered I.T. Director, Technical Arts Director or Systems Administrator. I’m not limiting myself to these, but I thought it might help if you happen to see an open position with a church.  I’m also realizing that I could easily fit into a Communications Director role, a person that is responsible for all communication within the church, both internal and with our community.  This might include branding sermon series and overseeing website content, and many other things.  I see far too many spelling errors and grammatical errors come from churches in e-mail, newsletters, websites or otherwise and that’s not good.  Sometimes, we need to pay attention to the little details.  Of course, where I end up may be a combination of any or all of the above roles.

Now Go!

Check it out! Go to my site, get to know me and my strengths and accomplishments.  Download my resume, in Word format or as a pdf and who knows, you might even find an easter egg on the site.  Let me know if do.

If you need someone like me at your church, give me a call at 417.483.5901.  I’m ready to talk about it.

I met with a leader of a church a few nights ago. He took me out to his church so we can discuss adding some new equipment and it was a great time. This is a small country church, in the truest sense but it seems they don’t see themselves that way. They are thinking big.

We are adding a projector and motorized screen in the sanctuary, plus a projector in the fellowship hall. We spent a lot of time sorting through the options, such as one projector in the middle with a motorized screen or 2 projectors shooting on each side of the front wall and it’s really a toss-up. Near the end, I told him that some of the bigger churches actually run 3 screens, the 2 side ones have the words and the middle one may just have some sort of video loop.

I’m not sure why I mentioned this because I didn’t see that happening in this church, but Dave was all over that and figured, there’s no reason not to do something like that. (except maybe budget constraints) Now I’m going to give him a bid on 3 options, 1 screen, 2 screens, 3 screens and they can decide what works for them.

A few days before this, I had a late breakfast/early lunch with my pastor and we talked about how we are doing things like we are larger than we are, which, in theory, helps a church to grow to that next level. I shared this thought with Dave and told him there is nothing wrong with doing things like the big churches. Also, just the simple fact of having projectors and doing more with technology will likely attract new people to start attending.

Dave shared that his pastor agrees that they need to act bigger than they are, so I see a lot of potential for this church. It’s a big step to break the mold that this church has known for years and God can lead them through it if this is His will for them.

I’ll work up a quote for them and the leadership of this church will need to make some decisions, but regardless of what they choose, it will be exciting to see God lead this church in possibly a new direction for their ministry.

It’s encouraging to see a church step up and actively do more to reach out to more people and connect with people, young and old.